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Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:16 pm
by Zixel
Yeah, Im not doubting about that fork on solo. But what about adding the waight of pessenger and sidecar?

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:32 pm
by Sam Van Tongerloo
i don't know, just have to test certain things i think about weight and suspension and so on. that's part of the fun...

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:55 pm
by Zixel
HERE is an old BMX sidecar!

John, look, this may help you!

http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/littlejohn/454/4

U can see the lockers to bike's frame here

And here

http://anthonydomingo.com/hack/




Also, there is a bmx sidehack in online store!
http://www.patriotbicycles.com/Sidehacks.htm



Yeee HAaaa!!

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B.M.X sidecars

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:52 pm
by John Wolverson
Hello Zixel, Those websites for B.M.X sidecars are just brilliant, and will give me quite a number of ideas when I do decide to make a start on my own B.M.X sidecar project.

All the best........Johnny W. UK.

Ps, Where do you come from in Russia?

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:34 pm
by Scott
Here's some stuff from the USA (California), from the 1970's. Several of these guys graduated to sidecar-cross in the early 1980's, including my Dakar passenger Duane McDowell (he's probably in some of these photos). My brothers and I built and rode bicycle sidecars before we raced sidecar-cross. Our first bicycle sidecar was 50% wood! That was around 1970, before BMX really got started.

The photos and website below are from Rick Twomey (Rick's Bike Shop), a good friend of mine.

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See the whole photo gallery here:
http://www.rbsteam.com/modules/sidehack/pics.php

And a poster from a 2006 event in California:
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B.M.X sidecarcross

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:44 pm
by John Wolverson
Hello Scott, I didn't realise that B.M.X sidecarcross had been quite this popular back in the 70s in the U.S.A, or if at all. Which of the photographs are you and your brother on, and what was your race number? Marc never had a pushbike sidecar, but he did have many small 50cc and 90cc sidecar outfits. This is Marc aged about 5 or 6 in his very first sidecar race, in about 1965/6.

Bye for now...........Johnny W.

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Re: B.M.X sidecarcross

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:58 pm
by Scott
John Wolverson wrote:...Which of the photographs are you and your brother on, and what was your race number?...
None are us. I would have to dig deep to find any photos from those days. Wow, 1965, I can't say I was doing anything back then but shitting my pants! Great photo you have there! I guess you've mastered the headache of scanning and posting photos. Great job!

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:17 pm
by Zixel
OK, Im thinking that making a BMX sidehack is much easyer than making an MTB, becos MTB should have an alluminium frame and is so difficalt to find the moterials and a special welding for alluminium. So making a still sidecar for bmx is much easyer. (Are u gonna make it with sill pipes, right? Or with that chromium molybdenum fusion?)

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:25 pm
by Zixel
And dont u think that we should decide the problem of uncofortable place for moving out a pessenger's leg between side wheel and handle?

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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:01 pm
by John Wolverson
Hello Zixel, On all of the small sidecar outfits that I ever made for Marc, I never once used high grade tubing. Even on the motocross outfits that I made that Marc and I raced both internationally and nationals, I only ever used seam welded grade "A" tubing, without any real problems. Although I have a tube bender I tend to use tubes off other things, like tubing from tables, chairs, and all types of other things. Office chairs (the type with plastic seats) are quite high grade tubing, if you think about it, they are very hard to bend. The little sidecar that I made for Marc in the photograph, I used office chairs with the powder coating removed for most of the chassis construction, the small chrome handrail was a part of the frame off a glass table. For the rear subframe, I found some tubing with the correct bends that I required in a skip by the side if the road. The sidecar and rear mudguard I made out of an old Kawasaki motocross front mudguard. By doing it this way your project comes out quite cheap to build. If you find at the end of the project that you don't like sidecars, it hasn't cost you anything. I will be doing some drawings shortly, and I will post them on this forum for you.

Regards........Johnny W.

Re: B.M.X SIDECAR PROJECT.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:15 am
by Zixel
John Wolverson wrote:Hello Zixel, On all of the small sidecar outfits that I ever made for Marc, I never once used high grade tubing. Even on the motocross outfits that I made that Marc and I raced both internationally and nationals, I only ever used seam welded grade "A" tubing, without any real problems. Although I have a tube bender I tend to use tubes off other things, like tubing from tables, chairs, and all types of other things. Office chairs (the type with plastic seats) are quite high grade tubing, if you think about it, they are very hard to bend. The little sidecar that I made for Marc in the photograph, I used office chairs with the powder coating removed for most of the chassis construction, the small chrome handrail was a part of the frame off a glass table. For the rear subframe, I found some tubing with the correct bends that I required in a skip by the side if the road. The sidecar and rear mudguard I made out of an old Kawasaki motocross front mudguard. By doing it this way your project comes out quite cheap to build. If you find at the end of the project that you don't like sidecars, it hasn't cost you anything. I will be doing some drawings shortly, and I will post them on this forum for you.

Regards........Johnny W.
Thanx! I just understand a few last sentences. Dont explain with that difficalt english next time =)

B.M.X SIDECAR PROJECT.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:07 am
by John Wolverson
Hiya Zixel, What part didn't you understand?

Best regards......Johnny W.

Re: B.M.X SIDECAR PROJECT.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:48 am
by Scott
John Wolverson wrote:Hiya Zixel, What part didn't you understand?
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:41 am
by Zixel
Hahaha!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

U mean that i shouldn bend pipes myself, but i heve tu find chairs with the pipes i need?

B.M.X SIDECAR PROJECT

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:56 am
by John Wolverson
Hello Zixel and Scott, This is the main cheap type office chairs that I get the tubing off, But there are many other types. If you go into furniture@work you will see the exact type that I use the most. For Tom's B.M.X sidecar, for the main chassis I intend to use parts of the chrome tubular frame of a lounger, but I will do some photographs as I progress with it.

Best regards...........Johnny W.

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But the exact type is on furniture@work